You Have the Skills. It's Time to Build the Business That Pays You for Them.

Design Business Pro is a graphic design and web design business coaching program for freelance designers who are done undercharging, done overworking, and ready to finally build a profitable business with confidence.

You didn't get into design to struggle. But somewhere between your first client and right now, the business side of freelancing got complicated — and nobody taught you how to handle it.

That's exactly what we fix here.

You're Good at Design. So Why Does the Business Feel So Hard?

You have real skills. Clients have told you your work is excellent. You get referrals. You stay late to get projects right.

And yet.

You're still quoting rates you're embarrassed by. You're still saying yes to clients who drain you. You're still trading hours for dollars and wondering why the math never quite works out.

You've Googled "how to charge more for web design." You've watched the YouTube videos. You've read the blog posts.

But nothing has actually changed.

Here's what nobody tells you: the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a design skills problem. It's a confidence problem. A clarity problem. A positioning problem.

And those are exactly the problems a good graphic design and web design business coach actually solves.

The Designers Who Thrive Aren't More Talented Than You.

They Think Differently About Their Business.

The designers charging $5,000 for a website — while you charge $800 for the same scope — aren't better designers.

They've just figured out three things you haven't been taught yet.

They know exactly who they serve best and how to position themselves as the obvious choice for that client.

They know how to price based on the value they create — not the hours they log.

And they know how to build a client relationship that generates recurring revenue long after the first project ends.

None of this is complicated. None of it requires a marketing degree or a massive social media following.

It requires the right framework, a coach who has actually done it, and the confidence to start acting like the CEO of your own business.

That's what Design Business Pro is built to give you.

I'm Mat Casner:

Your Web Design Business Coach

I'm the Person I Wish I'd Had Knew When I Was Starting Out.

I didn't start as a coach. I started as a graphic designer, then grew into a web designer.

For years I freelanced on the side while working full-time jobs — including a stretch at a large advertising agency in Kansas City where I was managing web and marketing projects for Fortune 500 clients.

Here's the thing that changed everything for me.

The agency was billing my work at $150 an hour. I was charging my own freelance clients $20 to $25 an hour for the same quality of work.

The same skills. The same output. A fraction of the price.

When that finally landed — when I really internalized what that gap meant — I stopped seeing myself as a commodity and started seeing myself as an asset. I raised my rates. I changed how I talked about my work. I changed who I worked with.

And my business changed completely.

I left my corporate cubicle more than 15 years ago and have been running my own full-time design and web agency — Redlogic Communications — ever since. I still take client work today. I'm not a guru who stopped designing a decade ago and now sells courses about it. I'm a practitioner who coaches because I know what works in the real world right now.

For the past decade I've worked with freelance designers all over the world — graphic designers, web designers, brand designers, and other creative professionals — helping them build businesses that are profitable, sustainable, and genuinely enjoyable to run.

My mission is simple: I want to help you own your unique talents, charge what you're worth, and build a business that actually supports your life.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

That's what we do here.

"Before the 8 Weeks Were Over, I Had Made More Money Than I Had in the Entire Previous Year."

I want to tell you about Isaac.

Isaac is a writer and marketing consultant. Smart, talented, genuinely good at what he does.

In the summer of 2022, he sat down with his wife and told her he was done. Done trying to grow his business. Done with the struggle. Done with the dream. He was ready to quit.

That same week, a friend referred him to one of my summits. He almost didn't come.

But something made him give it one last shot.

Here's what Isaac told me afterward:

"There's a lot of gurus out there who are gonna tell you that with their training or course they're gonna turn your business around. But as soon as I started receiving communication from Mat, there was just something different. I could tell he was there to serve."

Isaac came to the summit. Then he enrolled in my 8-week program.

Before the eight weeks were over — before the course even finished — Isaac had made more money in his business than he had in the entire previous year.

The entire previous year.

Not because I handed him a magic formula. Not because I promised him overnight results.

Because we worked through three very specific things together: his mindset about himself and about money, how to package his services around what he actually loves to do, and how to price those packages so he was finally making a real profit.

Three things. And his business transformed.

I'm sharing Isaac's story because I know some of you reading this right now are exactly where he was in the summer of 2022.

Talented. Working hard. Doing everything you know how to do.

But something isn't clicking.

It can work. I've seen it too many times to think otherwise.

What Design Business Pro Actually Teaches You

Most design education teaches you how to design. Design Business Pro teaches you how to run a design business.

There's a difference — and it's the difference between a talented designer who struggles and a confident creative professional who thrives.

Here's what we work on together:

Clarity — Know Exactly What You Offer and Who You Serve Best

Most designers try to serve everyone and end up attracting the wrong clients at the wrong rates. We use a structured framework to help you identify the clients you serve best, the services you love delivering, and the positioning that makes you the obvious choice — not just another option.

Confidence — Charge What You're Worth Without Apologizing for It

Undercharging isn't a pricing problem. It's a confidence and mindset problem. We work through the beliefs that are keeping your rates low and replace them with a value-based pricing approach that reflects what your work actually delivers to a client's business.

Recurring Revenue — Build a Business That Pays You Beyond the First Project

One-time projects keep you on a feast-or-famine treadmill. We help you build recurring revenue through maintenance plans, retainers, and strategic upsells that turn a single client relationship into years of consistent income.

Sales Without the Sleaze — Close Clients Confidently and Authentically

You don't need to be pushy or manipulative to close a sale. You need to know how to have a real conversation about value. We teach you a sales approach that feels natural, builds trust, and converts the right clients — without ever feeling like you're performing.

From "I Was Seriously Considering Quitting" to a Full-Time Design Business She Loves

Sarah was a college instructor teaching graphic design when COVID hit and changed everything.

Fewer teaching jobs. Less respect for her expertise. Almost no control over her time. She felt like "just the help" rather than a valued professional.

When the pandemic forced a reset, a friend asked her to design a book cover — and something clicked. She already had the skills. She built a website and launched a freelance design business.

Then reality hit.

How much do I charge? Hourly or packages? What do I do when a client keeps changing their mind? What if they ask for a refund on work they already approved? How do I break out of feast or famine?

The questions piled up fast. The stress was real. She was seriously considering quitting and going back to a traditional job.

That's when she found Design Business Pro.

"Right away I was like — this is the resource I need. A friendly, encouraging person with a lot of real-world experience. I needed mentorship and practical advice."

In the time she spent working through the program, Sarah describes getting the equivalent of a mini business degree — comparable in practical value to the graduate degree she already held.

She learned how to price her work, package her services, set client expectations, and build a referral-based business.

The results? Her hourly earnings nearly tripled. She stopped wanting to quit. She built a steady flow of referral work. And she's now able to split her week between her design business and her passion for fine art — the exact life she set out to create.

"I had all the skills. It was inside me all along. Mat's encouragement and advice helped bring it out and made it possible for me to build a business that actually supports my life."

She's been running her business full-time for over two years now. She's not looking back.

What You Get Inside Design Business Pro

Design Business Pro combines structured training, live coaching, and a community of working designers — so you get the knowledge, the accountability, and the support to actually implement what you learn.

The Design Business Academy

An 8-week course built specifically for freelance graphic designers and web designers. We cover positioning, pricing, packaging, client management, sales, and recurring revenue — everything design school skipped. You work through it at your pace with lifetime access.

Monthly Group Coaching Calls

Live calls with Mat where you can bring your real business questions, deals you're trying to close, clients you're navigating, and pricing decisions you're wrestling with. Real answers for real situations.

Private Community

A private community of designers who are building serious businesses. Ask questions, share wins, get feedback on proposals, and stay accountable to your goals. No trolls. No fluff. Just working designers helping each other grow.

Guest Expert Trainings

Regular sessions with outside experts covering topics like SEO, content marketing, legal basics for freelancers, and more — so you're getting a well-rounded business education, not just a design education.

Backstage Pass — A Look Inside Mat's Agency

See how a real working design and web agency operates. Real processes, real client communication, real pricing decisions. Not theory. Not what worked in 2010. What works right now.

Access to the Full Training Vault

Every past training, every resource, every template — available the moment you join.

Is Design Business Pro Right for You?

This is for you if...

You're a freelance graphic designer, web designer, or creative professional who already has marketable skills but struggles to price them confidently.

You've been freelancing for at least a year and you're ready to stop treating your business like a side hustle and start running it like a CEO.

You're tired of undercharging, attracting the wrong clients, and trading hours for dollars with nothing left over.

You want a coach who has actually built and run a real design business — not just someone who teaches business theory.

You're willing to do the work. You're not looking for a magic shortcut. You're looking for the right framework, the right support, and the clarity to finally move forward.

This is NOT for you if...

You're looking for a get-rich-quick formula or overnight results.

You're brand new to design with no client experience yet — this program is built for designers who already have skills and need to monetize them better.

You're not willing to examine how you think about your own value. Mindset work is part of this program. If that's not something you're open to, this isn't the right fit.

You want someone to do the work for you. This is a coaching and education program — the results come from your implementation.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Design Business Pro open right now?

Not at the moment — but doors will open again soon. Join the waitlist below and you'll be the first to know when enrollment opens. Waitlist members also get access to exclusive early-bird pricing.

I'm a graphic designer, not a web designer. Is this still for me?

Absolutely. While many of our strongest students are web designers, the frameworks we teach apply to any creative service business — brand designers, illustrators, print designers, and other creative professionals have all built better businesses through this program. If you sell a creative service, this was built for you.

How much does it cost?

Pricing is shared when enrollment opens. Waitlist members are always offered the best available rate. What we can tell you is that the program is priced to be a genuine investment — not a $27 PDF — because real transformation requires real commitment from both of us.

How much time does it take each week?

The 8-week Academy is designed to be completed in 2 to 3 hours per week. Coaching calls and community engagement are additional but optional. Most students find that the time they invest quickly pays for itself through better pricing and more efficient client management.

I've tried other courses and they didn't work. Why is this different?

Most design business courses are built by people who stopped doing the work years ago. Mat still runs an active design and web agency. The frameworks inside Design Business Pro are tested in the real market — not just in a classroom. And unlike self-paced courses you abandon by week two, the community and coaching structure keeps you accountable.

What if I join and it's not for me?

We offer a 30-day money-back guarantee. Use the training, show up for the calls, engage with the community, and implement what you learn. If you genuinely don't believe it's worth your investment at the end of 30 days, forward your receipt with the subject line "Not For Me" and we'll give you a full refund — no questions asked.

What if I join I'm not sure I'm ready. What's a good first step?and it's not for me?

Download the free 6-Figure D.E.S.I.G.N. Business Blueprint. It's a no-cost resource that walks you through the foundation of building a profitable design business. If it resonates, you'll know you're in the right place.

You Already Have What It Takes.
Let's Build the Business Around It.

Isaac was ready to quit. Sarah was ready to go back to a traditional job.

Neither of them had a skills problem.

They had a business problem — and they needed someone who had already solved it to show them how.

If you're reading this and something in you is saying yes, this is exactly where I am — trust that.

You don't need another year of undercharging. You don't need to figure this out alone. You need a proven framework, a coach who has been in the trenches, and a community of designers who are serious about building something real.

That's Design Business Pro.

Doors aren't open right now — but they will be. Join the waitlist below and be first in line when enrollment opens. Waitlist members get notified first and always receive the best available pricing.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

— Mat Casner, Design Business Pro

The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
Ep. 4. Setting Effective Goals for Freelancers
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It’s November. And for me and my business, I love looking forward to the new year, and I wanna challenge you to think about some ways where you can adapt, change, and grow your Freelance business. We wanna head into the new year with some fresh energy, some fresh ideas, and some fresh goals to keep us motivated. If you have a question about how to set goals for your Freelance business, we’ll stick around. I’m gonna show you why goal setting is so important, and I’m gonna give you some powerful ways to set goals to grow your business. And my three big factors that you should focus on when setting your goals that will help you grow your business.

Guys. I can tell you that as a young freelancer, I would, I, I would go through the New Year’s cycle just about like everybody else.

You know, I would think about some resolutions, and I didn’t really give a lot of consideration to how I could specifically create goals for my business. Not that I didn’t want to, I just really didn’t know where to focus my time, my energy, and my thoughts. But over time, I have learned that there are some very key ways that I can use the new year and some goal setting to really bring some focus, clarity, provide motivation for myself. Going into the new here. Setting goals helps us to imagine new possibilities and ways that we can grow our business to the next level. Goals are a healthy way of us being able to identify new ways that we can grow new skills, add new services, add new clients, improve our marketing, improve our reach. And there’s just many ways that we can go into a new year and create ways to help us grow. So one of the things that I want to kind of focus in on here is just for, for me, what are the reasons why I set goals in my business and how I do that? Number one, I try to find goals that I can set that are measurable. If I am interested in growing,let’s say myself, you know, maybe I’m going to learn one new skill or maybe two new skills, or maybe I want to learn a new application or maybe a new technique, or maybe I want to study a certain type of marketing and learn how to use that marketing tool better. But whatever it is, I, I want to clearly define it.

I think sometimes when we set goals, we can be vague, and when we’re vague, I mean, it really is. That’s really kind of the, a cheater’s way of setting a goal, because you really don’t know if you hit it or not, and you can kind of swing for the fence. And if you, you know, you, you don’t know how far you hit, then you don’t know if you really made an impact or not. But if you can set a clearly defined goal, then when you’ve achieved that goal, that is measurable. Okay? And I would also say that another thing that I do is I try to set realistic goals. It’s not a bad idea to have a big, hairy, audacious school. In fact,

I have many of them in my own business, which are those goals that are really big overstretching, probably more than what you can accomplish in a year or maybe even two years. But these are the goals that, that you’re really, really pressing for. But the goals that I wanna set for the year are, are smaller goals, more incremental goals that can be measured and calculated. Because what I wanna do, a as I go throughout my years, I want to be able to see my progress. I want to be able to see how I have done toward either reaching, achieving, or exceeding the goals that I’ve set for myself. Okay? And if I set them in a manner that they are attainable, then those little successes build confidence, they create positive energy, and they motivate me to want to set additional goals and to keep taking further steps. So when we, when we set goals for ourselves, we want them to be actionable. We want them to be attainable. We want them to be clearly defined so that we know exactly what we’re reaching for.

Now, I want to share with you what I would consider to be the three big factors that I use when setting my goals. I think that there’s a lot of ways that we can, we can goal set, and there’s tons of ways to, to go about that. However, I think it’s important to make sure that our goals land in one of three main areas in terms of business growth.

Because at the end of the day, right, I think that’s what we’re interested in. We’re interested in moving our business forward, and we want to make sure that we’re spending our time and our effort on the right things. Nothing can be more frustrating than to set a goal that you might end up achieving, but in the end of the day, doesn’t really help you move the needle in terms of progress that you’re making in your business.

So I’m gonna share with you the three big factors that I think we should focus on when we’re creating our goals for the new year. I’ve already started doing this in my business, and it’s exciting because you can make your goals and know that the end result is going to help you with your net increase in your business growth. So here are the three big factors that I want to share with you.

So, number one, I would say that the, the number one factor that I use for setting goals is growing customer leads. I want to grow my reach. I want to grow the impact that I am having in terms of getting my services out in front of more people. And by getting them out in front of more people, I want to create more awareness of myself as a business owner.

See, we can’t have customers until they know about us and they don’t know about us until we put ourselves out there. So for, for one big factor in terms of growing your business, maybe you wanna set a goal around awareness. What can you do to help increase your exposure? So that could be in the form of, you know, maintaining or building a social media page or a channel, maybe that is building a website or creating additional content for your website. With Zoom, we can jump into networking sorts of events, whether it’s through Zoom, maybe it’s a Facebook group, finding places where our customers are hanging out and start to mingle with them more. So as we do that, we’re creating more awareness for ourselves and our business and creating relationships that could then potentially turn into new business.

So factor number one is awareness, growing customer lead. Maybe you want to create a goal around that. Maybe you want to create a goal around growing the, the leads that you get by creating more awareness for your business. Okay, so factor number two is conversion. So what is conversion? Conversion is taking those people who know you, know, your business and converting them into customers.

To be able to do that, you have to build trust. You have to create an offer that clearly communicates your value and the services that you offer, and then an invitation for people to do work with you. So maybe you wanna create a goal that’s centered around this whole idea of conversion. What would that look like? Well, maybe you want to maybe create a specific offer for your customer that gives them a chance to kind of test drive your services, that pays you a little bit of money, that allows you to create a relationship with a new customer and allow them to kind of get to know you a little bit. And if you’ve done my 1003 day challenge, you know that that’s the premise behind that challenge is to create an offer that would allow you to create a new relationship with a new customer.

And that conversion factor is little things that you can do in your business that will allow you to increase the amount of conversion. Another example would be maybe being diligent about going out and collecting customer testimonials, those success stories that you’ve had from past clients. And those stories communicate. Not only do you know your craft, but the type of person you are and what it’s like to work with you and the results that a client can get from working with you.

These, these success stories are very powerful, but you have to go out and get them. You have to go out and ask for them. You have to cultivate them from your existing customers. And believe me, there’s nothing more powerful than a success story or a testimonial that tells your potential customer that you’re good, you are trustworthy, and you are a good person to work with.

So maybe you would create a goal that’s around, you know, conversion. Maybe you are going to go out and talk to past customers and you want to get some, some feedback from them, and you want to get those testimonials, add them to your website, add them to your social media posts, and share those in places where people will see them and start to develop a greater comfortable trust with you as a business owner.

So the number two factor that you might want to focus on for goal setting is conversion, getting those potential customers and converting them into customers. Now, the last one for the day is factor number three, which is retention. Okay, I’ve said this in a previous lesson, but the fact is, guys, that the effort that it takes for us to find a new customer is so much more than keeping an existing customer happy.

When we’ve already had an opportunity to serve one client, it’s easy for us to do work for them. Again, if we are careful in managing that relationship, if we are creating relationship with our customers and providing them with good value, then for them to be able to come and trust us for another, another job should be easy. It should be easier than having to go out and create a brand new relationship and find someone that you don’t already work with and convert them to a customer and prove yourself to them that you can be trusted.

So what can we do with retention is we can continue to build a relationship, continue to build a relationship with our existing customers, that we can start to leverage those existing relationships and allow that to become recurring revenue in our businesses. So maybe one goal that you might set would be starting a monthly newsletter that goes out to your existing customers, that explains a little bit what’s going on in your business.

Maybe it talks about the new skills that you’re learning, maybe a new service that you’re offering, and allows you to also share those wins from projects that you’re wrapping up, grabbing those testimonials and bragging on that new client inside the newsletter, celebrating the wins. Guys, when your existing clients see that they are energized, they’re looking at what you’re doing for other people and a little bit of the FOMO takes over, they see that there could be something that they could do in their business and maybe that would inspire them to reach out and connect with you and have you do, do something similar for them. So creating a a mechanism like a newsletter would be a great goal because that would be something that you could do on a regular basis.

Doesn’t have to be big or elaborate, but creates touchpoints that develop a relationship between you and your existing clients. So as we kinda wrap up here, I want you to think about the goals that you can set for next year. Make sure that they’re actionable, they’re clearly defined and it’s, it’s not a bad idea if they can be somewhat of a habit.

If you can maybe create a goal that would allow you to form a new habit, whether it’s posting on a social media, whether it’s, maybe it’s creating a newsletter that’s put out on a regular basis, something that you can add to your business that’s repeatable, that allows you to grow over time. And then don’t forget those three big factors that you can use that will help move the needle when you’re growing your business.

Factor number one is growing those customer leads your exposure, showing new people who you are and the services that you offer and the products that you sell. Factor number two, conversion. Building trust with your audience, allowing them to see that you do good work and convert them into a paying customer. And then factor number three, when setting your goals is set goals that will help you retain your customers.

Customer retention is huge. Create a relationship and continue to share throughout the year the good work that you’re doing in your business. And allow those customers to see how you are serving other customers. Guys, that’s, there’s, there’s magic in that that can happen when you share things that are going on in your business and the wins that you share with others and those success stories that those customers are sharing with you.

So I hope that you’ll take an opportunity in the next couple of months. Let yourself think a little bit about how you can grow your business. What are some things that you can do to grow yourself and look forward to growing, not just your customers, but your, your conversion and your customer retention. Do you want get started as a freelancer but not quite sure where to begin?

Then be sure to check out the Freelance Blueprint, a free resource that I created just for you. Inside the Freelance Blueprint, I share a detailed roadmap that you can follow to help you build a stable and profitable Freelance business. Grab your copy of the Freelance Blueprint right now. Just go to Freelance ceo.com/blueprint. Hey, just a second. Before you go,

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