You Have the Skills. It's Time to Build the Business That Pays You for Them.

Design Business Pro is a graphic design and web design business coaching program for freelance designers who are done undercharging, done overworking, and ready to finally build a profitable business with confidence.

You didn't get into design to struggle. But somewhere between your first client and right now, the business side of freelancing got complicated — and nobody taught you how to handle it.

That's exactly what we fix here.

You're Good at Design. So Why Does the Business Feel So Hard?

You have real skills. Clients have told you your work is excellent. You get referrals. You stay late to get projects right.

And yet.

You're still quoting rates you're embarrassed by. You're still saying yes to clients who drain you. You're still trading hours for dollars and wondering why the math never quite works out.

You've Googled "how to charge more for web design." You've watched the YouTube videos. You've read the blog posts.

But nothing has actually changed.

Here's what nobody tells you: the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a design skills problem. It's a confidence problem. A clarity problem. A positioning problem.

And those are exactly the problems a good graphic design and web design business coach actually solves.

The Designers Who Thrive Aren't More Talented Than You.

They Think Differently About Their Business.

The designers charging $5,000 for a website — while you charge $800 for the same scope — aren't better designers.

They've just figured out three things you haven't been taught yet.

They know exactly who they serve best and how to position themselves as the obvious choice for that client.

They know how to price based on the value they create — not the hours they log.

And they know how to build a client relationship that generates recurring revenue long after the first project ends.

None of this is complicated. None of it requires a marketing degree or a massive social media following.

It requires the right framework, a coach who has actually done it, and the confidence to start acting like the CEO of your own business.

That's what Design Business Pro is built to give you.

I'm Mat Casner:

Your Web Design Business Coach

I'm the Person I Wish I'd Had Knew When I Was Starting Out.

I didn't start as a coach. I started as a graphic designer, then grew into a web designer.

For years I freelanced on the side while working full-time jobs — including a stretch at a large advertising agency in Kansas City where I was managing web and marketing projects for Fortune 500 clients.

Here's the thing that changed everything for me.

The agency was billing my work at $150 an hour. I was charging my own freelance clients $20 to $25 an hour for the same quality of work.

The same skills. The same output. A fraction of the price.

When that finally landed — when I really internalized what that gap meant — I stopped seeing myself as a commodity and started seeing myself as an asset. I raised my rates. I changed how I talked about my work. I changed who I worked with.

And my business changed completely.

I left my corporate cubicle more than 15 years ago and have been running my own full-time design and web agency — Redlogic Communications — ever since. I still take client work today. I'm not a guru who stopped designing a decade ago and now sells courses about it. I'm a practitioner who coaches because I know what works in the real world right now.

For the past decade I've worked with freelance designers all over the world — graphic designers, web designers, brand designers, and other creative professionals — helping them build businesses that are profitable, sustainable, and genuinely enjoyable to run.

My mission is simple: I want to help you own your unique talents, charge what you're worth, and build a business that actually supports your life.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

That's what we do here.

"Before the 8 Weeks Were Over, I Had Made More Money Than I Had in the Entire Previous Year."

I want to tell you about Isaac.

Isaac is a writer and marketing consultant. Smart, talented, genuinely good at what he does.

In the summer of 2022, he sat down with his wife and told her he was done. Done trying to grow his business. Done with the struggle. Done with the dream. He was ready to quit.

That same week, a friend referred him to one of my summits. He almost didn't come.

But something made him give it one last shot.

Here's what Isaac told me afterward:

"There's a lot of gurus out there who are gonna tell you that with their training or course they're gonna turn your business around. But as soon as I started receiving communication from Mat, there was just something different. I could tell he was there to serve."

Isaac came to the summit. Then he enrolled in my 8-week program.

Before the eight weeks were over — before the course even finished — Isaac had made more money in his business than he had in the entire previous year.

The entire previous year.

Not because I handed him a magic formula. Not because I promised him overnight results.

Because we worked through three very specific things together: his mindset about himself and about money, how to package his services around what he actually loves to do, and how to price those packages so he was finally making a real profit.

Three things. And his business transformed.

I'm sharing Isaac's story because I know some of you reading this right now are exactly where he was in the summer of 2022.

Talented. Working hard. Doing everything you know how to do.

But something isn't clicking.

It can work. I've seen it too many times to think otherwise.

What Design Business Pro Actually Teaches You

Most design education teaches you how to design. Design Business Pro teaches you how to run a design business.

There's a difference — and it's the difference between a talented designer who struggles and a confident creative professional who thrives.

Here's what we work on together:

Clarity — Know Exactly What You Offer and Who You Serve Best

Most designers try to serve everyone and end up attracting the wrong clients at the wrong rates. We use a structured framework to help you identify the clients you serve best, the services you love delivering, and the positioning that makes you the obvious choice — not just another option.

Confidence — Charge What You're Worth Without Apologizing for It

Undercharging isn't a pricing problem. It's a confidence and mindset problem. We work through the beliefs that are keeping your rates low and replace them with a value-based pricing approach that reflects what your work actually delivers to a client's business.

Recurring Revenue — Build a Business That Pays You Beyond the First Project

One-time projects keep you on a feast-or-famine treadmill. We help you build recurring revenue through maintenance plans, retainers, and strategic upsells that turn a single client relationship into years of consistent income.

Sales Without the Sleaze — Close Clients Confidently and Authentically

You don't need to be pushy or manipulative to close a sale. You need to know how to have a real conversation about value. We teach you a sales approach that feels natural, builds trust, and converts the right clients — without ever feeling like you're performing.

From "I Was Seriously Considering Quitting" to a Full-Time Design Business She Loves

Sarah was a college instructor teaching graphic design when COVID hit and changed everything.

Fewer teaching jobs. Less respect for her expertise. Almost no control over her time. She felt like "just the help" rather than a valued professional.

When the pandemic forced a reset, a friend asked her to design a book cover — and something clicked. She already had the skills. She built a website and launched a freelance design business.

Then reality hit.

How much do I charge? Hourly or packages? What do I do when a client keeps changing their mind? What if they ask for a refund on work they already approved? How do I break out of feast or famine?

The questions piled up fast. The stress was real. She was seriously considering quitting and going back to a traditional job.

That's when she found Design Business Pro.

"Right away I was like — this is the resource I need. A friendly, encouraging person with a lot of real-world experience. I needed mentorship and practical advice."

In the time she spent working through the program, Sarah describes getting the equivalent of a mini business degree — comparable in practical value to the graduate degree she already held.

She learned how to price her work, package her services, set client expectations, and build a referral-based business.

The results? Her hourly earnings nearly tripled. She stopped wanting to quit. She built a steady flow of referral work. And she's now able to split her week between her design business and her passion for fine art — the exact life she set out to create.

"I had all the skills. It was inside me all along. Mat's encouragement and advice helped bring it out and made it possible for me to build a business that actually supports my life."

She's been running her business full-time for over two years now. She's not looking back.

What You Get Inside Design Business Pro

Design Business Pro combines structured training, live coaching, and a community of working designers — so you get the knowledge, the accountability, and the support to actually implement what you learn.

The Design Business Academy

An 8-week course built specifically for freelance graphic designers and web designers. We cover positioning, pricing, packaging, client management, sales, and recurring revenue — everything design school skipped. You work through it at your pace with lifetime access.

Monthly Group Coaching Calls

Live calls with Mat where you can bring your real business questions, deals you're trying to close, clients you're navigating, and pricing decisions you're wrestling with. Real answers for real situations.

Private Community

A private community of designers who are building serious businesses. Ask questions, share wins, get feedback on proposals, and stay accountable to your goals. No trolls. No fluff. Just working designers helping each other grow.

Guest Expert Trainings

Regular sessions with outside experts covering topics like SEO, content marketing, legal basics for freelancers, and more — so you're getting a well-rounded business education, not just a design education.

Backstage Pass — A Look Inside Mat's Agency

See how a real working design and web agency operates. Real processes, real client communication, real pricing decisions. Not theory. Not what worked in 2010. What works right now.

Access to the Full Training Vault

Every past training, every resource, every template — available the moment you join.

Is Design Business Pro Right for You?

This is for you if...

You're a freelance graphic designer, web designer, or creative professional who already has marketable skills but struggles to price them confidently.

You've been freelancing for at least a year and you're ready to stop treating your business like a side hustle and start running it like a CEO.

You're tired of undercharging, attracting the wrong clients, and trading hours for dollars with nothing left over.

You want a coach who has actually built and run a real design business — not just someone who teaches business theory.

You're willing to do the work. You're not looking for a magic shortcut. You're looking for the right framework, the right support, and the clarity to finally move forward.

This is NOT for you if...

You're looking for a get-rich-quick formula or overnight results.

You're brand new to design with no client experience yet — this program is built for designers who already have skills and need to monetize them better.

You're not willing to examine how you think about your own value. Mindset work is part of this program. If that's not something you're open to, this isn't the right fit.

You want someone to do the work for you. This is a coaching and education program — the results come from your implementation.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Design Business Pro open right now?

Not at the moment — but doors will open again soon. Join the waitlist below and you'll be the first to know when enrollment opens. Waitlist members also get access to exclusive early-bird pricing.

I'm a graphic designer, not a web designer. Is this still for me?

Absolutely. While many of our strongest students are web designers, the frameworks we teach apply to any creative service business — brand designers, illustrators, print designers, and other creative professionals have all built better businesses through this program. If you sell a creative service, this was built for you.

How much does it cost?

Pricing is shared when enrollment opens. Waitlist members are always offered the best available rate. What we can tell you is that the program is priced to be a genuine investment — not a $27 PDF — because real transformation requires real commitment from both of us.

How much time does it take each week?

The 8-week Academy is designed to be completed in 2 to 3 hours per week. Coaching calls and community engagement are additional but optional. Most students find that the time they invest quickly pays for itself through better pricing and more efficient client management.

I've tried other courses and they didn't work. Why is this different?

Most design business courses are built by people who stopped doing the work years ago. Mat still runs an active design and web agency. The frameworks inside Design Business Pro are tested in the real market — not just in a classroom. And unlike self-paced courses you abandon by week two, the community and coaching structure keeps you accountable.

What if I join and it's not for me?

We offer a 30-day money-back guarantee. Use the training, show up for the calls, engage with the community, and implement what you learn. If you genuinely don't believe it's worth your investment at the end of 30 days, forward your receipt with the subject line "Not For Me" and we'll give you a full refund — no questions asked.

What if I join I'm not sure I'm ready. What's a good first step?and it's not for me?

Download the free 6-Figure D.E.S.I.G.N. Business Blueprint. It's a no-cost resource that walks you through the foundation of building a profitable design business. If it resonates, you'll know you're in the right place.

You Already Have What It Takes.
Let's Build the Business Around It.

Isaac was ready to quit. Sarah was ready to go back to a traditional job.

Neither of them had a skills problem.

They had a business problem — and they needed someone who had already solved it to show them how.

If you're reading this and something in you is saying yes, this is exactly where I am — trust that.

You don't need another year of undercharging. You don't need to figure this out alone. You need a proven framework, a coach who has been in the trenches, and a community of designers who are serious about building something real.

That's Design Business Pro.

Doors aren't open right now — but they will be. Join the waitlist below and be first in line when enrollment opens. Waitlist members get notified first and always receive the best available pricing.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

— Mat Casner, Design Business Pro

Freelance CEO Mat Casner
The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
Ep. 13. Getting fired was the best-worst thing that has happened to me
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It was the best of times. It was the worst of times I had graduated from college and I was starting out into my new career, and I couldn’t be more excited with my opportunities that were ahead of me. I was on a new team and things were looking bright, and things were looking great. Well, I had to say that over the months that were to come, things shifted. There was some ownership changes in the company, and what was a very fun atmosphere. We were productive.

I had great team dynamics, great company culture kind of seemed to turn on a dime. We went from having this fun, productive environment to being micromanaged and scrutinized and just made going to work a drag. I don’t know if you can relate, but for me, being new into a, a job and just feeling the sense of pressure and overwhelm, the joy was no longer in my job.

I really started to get frustrated. Now, you may have actually been in a position, maybe you’re in a position right now where there’s frustration, but I was young and immature in a lot of ways and just did not process my frustration in a healthy, positive way. So let me take you back to that first job. And as I was working and as the company culture started to shift, and as we started to feel more and more pressure from the new ownership and really felt the thumb coming down on top of us all, a lot of us were feeling a lot of stress, a lot of frustration. I have to admit, I didn’t handle it well, and I allowed that frustration to really become a focal point. And I made a mistake when I was on the job.

It’s a mistake that has humbled me, humiliated me, but has also served as, as a very poignant and important message that has stuck with me for now close to 25 years. Here’s a story. I came into work one day and I was again, not happy to be there. Most everybody that I was working with was looking for other employment. However,

I took it to a brand new level and had found an opportunity and made the foolish mistake of sending out my resume through the company fax machine again. Had I been thinking clearly, I would have totally not done that, but I did, and the owner of the company found my resume on the fax machine. He promptly walked over to my desk and not so politely asked me to put all my belongings in a box, and he escorted me out of the building. Now, this was literally the most embarrassing, humiliating thing that I have ever been through professionally and for a good reason. I made a stupid mistake. My wife at the time, we worked somewhat close together, and I was actually within blocks of where she worked, and she was quite surprised when I was in the car waiting for her when she got off of her shift, and then I had to explain to her the, the whole embarrassing affair.

It was as embarrassing as it sounds, and I’m, I’m very sad that actually that’s a part of my life. But there are some takeaways. I can look back now 25 years later, and I can tell you that there are some very important lessons that I’ve learned that have served me so well even to this day, and I wanna share some of those with you. Lesson number one that I learned from getting fired from my first job out of college was don’t let your emotions dictate your actions. You may be in a situation or a job right now that you do not like. In fact, it may be oppressing, it may be horrible. What I want to tell you is that if you don’t keep your emotions in check, they will lead to irrational actions that can cause embarrassment, but can also do long term damage. Now, I realize that every situation is different, so take this advice from me and, and my perspective. But you know, you have, you’ll have your own perspective to weigh in on, but to the best of your ability, don’t let your emotions dictate your actions.

I did, and I paid for it. It caused me a lot of frustration. The frustration caused me a lot of embarrassment, pain, and, you know, I had to go find a new job. So lesson number one, don’t let your emotions dictate your actions. Do your best to maintain control if you, you need to vent, vent with someone outside of business hours, and as much as you can, keep your workplace attitude as professional as possible. Which leads me to lesson number two. While you’re at your job, while it may be frustrating, continue to do your job with as much excellence as you can. I realize that that is a challenge, and I realize that maybe asking you to dig in deep and find some grit, but what you really are trying to do is you’re really trying to do your role with as much integrity as possible. Now, again, I realize that if you’re in a situation where the, the work environment is challenging, it’s draining, it’s frustrating, this could be difficult, but you want to be looking for another opportunity in the process. But while you’re in your job, continue to serve with as much integrity and excellence as you can. That leads me to lesson number three. When it is time to leave your employment, when you have found a new position, or if worse comes to worse and you must quit your job, do so in the best manner possible. I tell myself, whenever I leave a company, I want to leave, well, I want to leave my relationships well, my relationships with my supervisors, my relationships with my peers, my relationships with the vendors and the service providers that I’m working with through my job. And if there are subordinates or people working underneath you, make sure you leave those relationships well as well. You wanna make sure that you leave the company with as many good relationships as you can.

I will tell you that when I was fired from my first job, it was very hard to maintain those initial relationships that I had. It was almost like I had fractured the relationship between the ownership and a lot of the coworkers that I left. I made it very hard on all of us. So, but what I did learn is that in newer jobs, and I would’ve, I have gone on to different jobs, better jobs, and in every new job that I took, I wanted to do well with the relationships that I had. Let me tell you why. I spent roughly 10 years between going to college and my first freelancing gig full-time. I was freelancing on the side. I had a side hustle going on.

I had clients, but through those first 10 years I was working for someone else. I was bringing my best to those jobs, and I was serving these companies with the best that I had. Now, when I would leave those jobs, I wanted to make sure that I didn’t repeat the mistakes that I made in my first job. I wanted to make sure that I left those companies well, that they thought well of me, that I did my job with integrity and with excellence, and I really wanted them to feel like when I left that they were losing something. That was the sense that I wanted the companies to feel when I was done working for them. All right? Now, let me tell you how this has played in the last 15 years of me being a freelancer.

My first contract, in fact, it was the contract that allowed me to start freelancing full-time. It provided me with enough residual income to be able to, to launch out and be a freelancer full-time. Actually came from a company that I had worked for previously. I had left that company to pursue another opportunity, and this company had thought well enough of me that there became an opportunity a few years later to replace one of the positions that I was qualified for, and this company reached out to me because we had maintained a good relationship, and I left. Well, they approached me with an opportunity that actually became the foundation of my Freelance business, and this was 15 years ago. All right? That client has been a client of mine for 15 years. In fact, my invoices to this client over the past 15 years has exceeded a million dollars.

That happened in 2020. So the longevity of treating people well in companies that you work for, well can pay huge dividends to you as a freelancer going forward. Another example, I can tell you that in the past 15 years that I have been able to maintain and grow my client list largely by not advertising, okay? I’m not saying that advertising and marketing isn’t important because it is.

I have always had some sort of marketing or advertising going out there that presents who I am to my customers or future customers and what I do and whom I serve. But I can tell you that a lot of valuable clients have come to me over the past 15 years that have either been past employers, past coworkers, past supervisors, or relationships with past vendors and service providers that I’ve worked with in my past.

So I can tell you that the success that I’ve had in my Freelance journey has come in large part with the relationships that I have been able to maintain over the past 25 years. And I would dare say that I probably would not be here talking to you right now if I didn’t have the, the, the foresight and the lessons learned from that first job that I got fired from to know that I should maintain relationships with the companies that I work for, even though I haven’t worked for some of these companies for well over 20 years. So listen, take it from me. I realize that you may be in a job that’s frustrating, and you may not be in a job that you want, and you may want to launch out there and be a freelancer. But let me tell you this. Number one, don’t let your emotions dictate your actions, okay? Stay in control if you need to vent, vent outside of the office, keep that contained so that you can maintain the integrity and the excellence with what you’re doing your work with in your office. You want to maintain that sense of integrity and excellence so that your company, when you do leave, appreciates the work you do and really feels a sense of loss when you leave.

And number three, make sure that when you ti when it’s time to leave that position that you leave, well, okay, leave the relationships intact. Keep as many of those connections as you can because those connections become great references, great referrals for future business. And as, as is I just explained, those past relationships can become very, very profitable clients for you.

So don’t discount those relationships that you’re in from this current job or maybe even jobs you’ve had in the past. Those relationships can and will be profitable for you in the future.