You Have the Skills. It's Time to Build the Business That Pays You for Them.

Design Business Pro is a graphic design and web design business coaching program for freelance designers who are done undercharging, done overworking, and ready to finally build a profitable business with confidence.

You didn't get into design to struggle. But somewhere between your first client and right now, the business side of freelancing got complicated — and nobody taught you how to handle it.

That's exactly what we fix here.

You're Good at Design. So Why Does the Business Feel So Hard?

You have real skills. Clients have told you your work is excellent. You get referrals. You stay late to get projects right.

And yet.

You're still quoting rates you're embarrassed by. You're still saying yes to clients who drain you. You're still trading hours for dollars and wondering why the math never quite works out.

You've Googled "how to charge more for web design." You've watched the YouTube videos. You've read the blog posts.

But nothing has actually changed.

Here's what nobody tells you: the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a design skills problem. It's a confidence problem. A clarity problem. A positioning problem.

And those are exactly the problems a good graphic design and web design business coach actually solves.

The Designers Who Thrive Aren't More Talented Than You.

They Think Differently About Their Business.

The designers charging $5,000 for a website — while you charge $800 for the same scope — aren't better designers.

They've just figured out three things you haven't been taught yet.

They know exactly who they serve best and how to position themselves as the obvious choice for that client.

They know how to price based on the value they create — not the hours they log.

And they know how to build a client relationship that generates recurring revenue long after the first project ends.

None of this is complicated. None of it requires a marketing degree or a massive social media following.

It requires the right framework, a coach who has actually done it, and the confidence to start acting like the CEO of your own business.

That's what Design Business Pro is built to give you.

I'm Mat Casner:

Your Web Design Business Coach

I'm the Person I Wish I'd Had Knew When I Was Starting Out.

I didn't start as a coach. I started as a graphic designer, then grew into a web designer.

For years I freelanced on the side while working full-time jobs — including a stretch at a large advertising agency in Kansas City where I was managing web and marketing projects for Fortune 500 clients.

Here's the thing that changed everything for me.

The agency was billing my work at $150 an hour. I was charging my own freelance clients $20 to $25 an hour for the same quality of work.

The same skills. The same output. A fraction of the price.

When that finally landed — when I really internalized what that gap meant — I stopped seeing myself as a commodity and started seeing myself as an asset. I raised my rates. I changed how I talked about my work. I changed who I worked with.

And my business changed completely.

I left my corporate cubicle more than 15 years ago and have been running my own full-time design and web agency — Redlogic Communications — ever since. I still take client work today. I'm not a guru who stopped designing a decade ago and now sells courses about it. I'm a practitioner who coaches because I know what works in the real world right now.

For the past decade I've worked with freelance designers all over the world — graphic designers, web designers, brand designers, and other creative professionals — helping them build businesses that are profitable, sustainable, and genuinely enjoyable to run.

My mission is simple: I want to help you own your unique talents, charge what you're worth, and build a business that actually supports your life.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

That's what we do here.

"Before the 8 Weeks Were Over, I Had Made More Money Than I Had in the Entire Previous Year."

I want to tell you about Isaac.

Isaac is a writer and marketing consultant. Smart, talented, genuinely good at what he does.

In the summer of 2022, he sat down with his wife and told her he was done. Done trying to grow his business. Done with the struggle. Done with the dream. He was ready to quit.

That same week, a friend referred him to one of my summits. He almost didn't come.

But something made him give it one last shot.

Here's what Isaac told me afterward:

"There's a lot of gurus out there who are gonna tell you that with their training or course they're gonna turn your business around. But as soon as I started receiving communication from Mat, there was just something different. I could tell he was there to serve."

Isaac came to the summit. Then he enrolled in my 8-week program.

Before the eight weeks were over — before the course even finished — Isaac had made more money in his business than he had in the entire previous year.

The entire previous year.

Not because I handed him a magic formula. Not because I promised him overnight results.

Because we worked through three very specific things together: his mindset about himself and about money, how to package his services around what he actually loves to do, and how to price those packages so he was finally making a real profit.

Three things. And his business transformed.

I'm sharing Isaac's story because I know some of you reading this right now are exactly where he was in the summer of 2022.

Talented. Working hard. Doing everything you know how to do.

But something isn't clicking.

It can work. I've seen it too many times to think otherwise.

What Design Business Pro Actually Teaches You

Most design education teaches you how to design. Design Business Pro teaches you how to run a design business.

There's a difference — and it's the difference between a talented designer who struggles and a confident creative professional who thrives.

Here's what we work on together:

Clarity — Know Exactly What You Offer and Who You Serve Best

Most designers try to serve everyone and end up attracting the wrong clients at the wrong rates. We use a structured framework to help you identify the clients you serve best, the services you love delivering, and the positioning that makes you the obvious choice — not just another option.

Confidence — Charge What You're Worth Without Apologizing for It

Undercharging isn't a pricing problem. It's a confidence and mindset problem. We work through the beliefs that are keeping your rates low and replace them with a value-based pricing approach that reflects what your work actually delivers to a client's business.

Recurring Revenue — Build a Business That Pays You Beyond the First Project

One-time projects keep you on a feast-or-famine treadmill. We help you build recurring revenue through maintenance plans, retainers, and strategic upsells that turn a single client relationship into years of consistent income.

Sales Without the Sleaze — Close Clients Confidently and Authentically

You don't need to be pushy or manipulative to close a sale. You need to know how to have a real conversation about value. We teach you a sales approach that feels natural, builds trust, and converts the right clients — without ever feeling like you're performing.

From "I Was Seriously Considering Quitting" to a Full-Time Design Business She Loves

Sarah was a college instructor teaching graphic design when COVID hit and changed everything.

Fewer teaching jobs. Less respect for her expertise. Almost no control over her time. She felt like "just the help" rather than a valued professional.

When the pandemic forced a reset, a friend asked her to design a book cover — and something clicked. She already had the skills. She built a website and launched a freelance design business.

Then reality hit.

How much do I charge? Hourly or packages? What do I do when a client keeps changing their mind? What if they ask for a refund on work they already approved? How do I break out of feast or famine?

The questions piled up fast. The stress was real. She was seriously considering quitting and going back to a traditional job.

That's when she found Design Business Pro.

"Right away I was like — this is the resource I need. A friendly, encouraging person with a lot of real-world experience. I needed mentorship and practical advice."

In the time she spent working through the program, Sarah describes getting the equivalent of a mini business degree — comparable in practical value to the graduate degree she already held.

She learned how to price her work, package her services, set client expectations, and build a referral-based business.

The results? Her hourly earnings nearly tripled. She stopped wanting to quit. She built a steady flow of referral work. And she's now able to split her week between her design business and her passion for fine art — the exact life she set out to create.

"I had all the skills. It was inside me all along. Mat's encouragement and advice helped bring it out and made it possible for me to build a business that actually supports my life."

She's been running her business full-time for over two years now. She's not looking back.

What You Get Inside Design Business Pro

Design Business Pro combines structured training, live coaching, and a community of working designers — so you get the knowledge, the accountability, and the support to actually implement what you learn.

The Design Business Academy

An 8-week course built specifically for freelance graphic designers and web designers. We cover positioning, pricing, packaging, client management, sales, and recurring revenue — everything design school skipped. You work through it at your pace with lifetime access.

Monthly Group Coaching Calls

Live calls with Mat where you can bring your real business questions, deals you're trying to close, clients you're navigating, and pricing decisions you're wrestling with. Real answers for real situations.

Private Community

A private community of designers who are building serious businesses. Ask questions, share wins, get feedback on proposals, and stay accountable to your goals. No trolls. No fluff. Just working designers helping each other grow.

Guest Expert Trainings

Regular sessions with outside experts covering topics like SEO, content marketing, legal basics for freelancers, and more — so you're getting a well-rounded business education, not just a design education.

Backstage Pass — A Look Inside Mat's Agency

See how a real working design and web agency operates. Real processes, real client communication, real pricing decisions. Not theory. Not what worked in 2010. What works right now.

Access to the Full Training Vault

Every past training, every resource, every template — available the moment you join.

Is Design Business Pro Right for You?

This is for you if...

You're a freelance graphic designer, web designer, or creative professional who already has marketable skills but struggles to price them confidently.

You've been freelancing for at least a year and you're ready to stop treating your business like a side hustle and start running it like a CEO.

You're tired of undercharging, attracting the wrong clients, and trading hours for dollars with nothing left over.

You want a coach who has actually built and run a real design business — not just someone who teaches business theory.

You're willing to do the work. You're not looking for a magic shortcut. You're looking for the right framework, the right support, and the clarity to finally move forward.

This is NOT for you if...

You're looking for a get-rich-quick formula or overnight results.

You're brand new to design with no client experience yet — this program is built for designers who already have skills and need to monetize them better.

You're not willing to examine how you think about your own value. Mindset work is part of this program. If that's not something you're open to, this isn't the right fit.

You want someone to do the work for you. This is a coaching and education program — the results come from your implementation.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Design Business Pro open right now?

Not at the moment — but doors will open again soon. Join the waitlist below and you'll be the first to know when enrollment opens. Waitlist members also get access to exclusive early-bird pricing.

I'm a graphic designer, not a web designer. Is this still for me?

Absolutely. While many of our strongest students are web designers, the frameworks we teach apply to any creative service business — brand designers, illustrators, print designers, and other creative professionals have all built better businesses through this program. If you sell a creative service, this was built for you.

How much does it cost?

Pricing is shared when enrollment opens. Waitlist members are always offered the best available rate. What we can tell you is that the program is priced to be a genuine investment — not a $27 PDF — because real transformation requires real commitment from both of us.

How much time does it take each week?

The 8-week Academy is designed to be completed in 2 to 3 hours per week. Coaching calls and community engagement are additional but optional. Most students find that the time they invest quickly pays for itself through better pricing and more efficient client management.

I've tried other courses and they didn't work. Why is this different?

Most design business courses are built by people who stopped doing the work years ago. Mat still runs an active design and web agency. The frameworks inside Design Business Pro are tested in the real market — not just in a classroom. And unlike self-paced courses you abandon by week two, the community and coaching structure keeps you accountable.

What if I join and it's not for me?

We offer a 30-day money-back guarantee. Use the training, show up for the calls, engage with the community, and implement what you learn. If you genuinely don't believe it's worth your investment at the end of 30 days, forward your receipt with the subject line "Not For Me" and we'll give you a full refund — no questions asked.

What if I join I'm not sure I'm ready. What's a good first step?and it's not for me?

Download the free 6-Figure D.E.S.I.G.N. Business Blueprint. It's a no-cost resource that walks you through the foundation of building a profitable design business. If it resonates, you'll know you're in the right place.

You Already Have What It Takes.
Let's Build the Business Around It.

Isaac was ready to quit. Sarah was ready to go back to a traditional job.

Neither of them had a skills problem.

They had a business problem — and they needed someone who had already solved it to show them how.

If you're reading this and something in you is saying yes, this is exactly where I am — trust that.

You don't need another year of undercharging. You don't need to figure this out alone. You need a proven framework, a coach who has been in the trenches, and a community of designers who are serious about building something real.

That's Design Business Pro.

Doors aren't open right now — but they will be. Join the waitlist below and be first in line when enrollment opens. Waitlist members get notified first and always receive the best available pricing.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

— Mat Casner, Design Business Pro

The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
Ep. 6. Finding Clients Easily With the Client Snowball™ Framework
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Now, guys, I get asked the question all the time, how do I find clients when I’m just getting started? And guys, I get it, it’s tough when you’re just getting started as a freelancer or you’re,

you’re just trying to find clients. It can be difficult. It can feel like you’re this little bitty fish swimming around in this big, big pond, right? And how do you get the right exposure? How do you market yourself? How do you, how do you get yourself out in front of the right people? So let me tell you what, as a freelancer who’s been doing this for 15 years full-time, but has been freelancing for 30 years, I can tell you that it’s a lot less complicated than you think. And I’m gonna share some tips with you today that will help you get clarity on how you can build a strategy for yourself for finding clients. Now, when I get started here today,

I want to share with you a couple of things. Number one, your success as a freelancer has very little to do with your, your marketing ability, okay? And I say that we look at marketing as this, this very forward facing, you know, almost kind of a bragging type of a mentality. And let me tell you this, guys, when I was getting started in business, that was something that really tripped me up. I felt very uncomfortable putting myself out there and bragging about what I could do. Now, at the end of the day, you have to do that. You have to put yourself out there. But I think a lot of us get gun shy and are afraid to really do what we need to do to get ourselves out there.

Because either one, we’re, we’re introverted and we’re scared of getting out in front of people and drawing attention to ourselves. We just want to do the work and really not be out in front. Maybe we’ve got a, an issue with, you know, social media, and that’s just something that we don’t, that, that we don’t play well with. At the end of the day, guys, I think we have to understand that we have to put ourselves out there. But I think there’s a way to do it in a way that’s non-salesy and not slimy. And especially if you’re a person who’s introverted or maybe a person who doesn’t like self-promotion,

I think what the, I’m gonna share with you today will be a breath of fresh air for you. Also, I think what I’m gonna share with you today will be exactly what you need if you’re just getting started as a freelancer, if you don’t have any clients, all you need is the simple framework to get started. Now, one of the things that I’ll say before I I start the training today is that you need to at least know how to solve some business problems.

Okay? Now, maybe you’re a graphic designer and you say, well, Matt, that’s what I do. I I’m a designer, I design things. Well, the first thing you need to reframe is yes, you are a designer, but when you’re working in the business world, you need to position yourself as a graphic designer who can do blank, okay? And in that blank, you need to insert the business problem that you can solve. So I have actually kind of reframed how I think of myself. I am a graphic designer. I’m a creative, but I have reframed my identity to be a creative problem solver, okay? Or a visual problem solver. I go into situations with clients who have a real business need.

Most oftentimes, they’re trying to find more clients. They’re trying to establish a brand so that they can promote themselves and their business. They want to make more money. That’s what they’re in business for, guys, aren’t we the same way? Aren’t we trying to find more clients and get more exposure for us as business owners? So in some, in some ways, we need to kind of take our own medicine. But what we’re going to be doing is we’re gonna be interacting with clients, and we’re gonna find out what business problem that they have that we can solve. Maybe it’s a branding problem. Maybe they need a brand created for them. Maybe they have a website problem and they need someone to create a website for them.

Or maybe they need a, a fresh logo, a logo, refresh, whatever it happens to be, okay? Find a problem that you can solve for your clients. And that’s where we’re going to start. Even if you have no clients right now, you have to get to the point where you understand the specific business problems that you can solve. Now, what I’m going to share right now is a framework called the client snowball. Okay? The client snowball framework is a repeatable process that you can use to attract new clients to yourself over and over and over again. So the client snowball process works like this. So the first thing that you need to do in the client snowball framework is you need to get a sale.

Now, when I say get a sale, what I mean is you need to find someone with a problem that you can solve. I know when I was getting started off as a, a young freelancer, I was looking for clients too. Now, clients that paid me money seemed to be kind of hard to find, but you know what? It seemed like there was always people asking me to do stuff for them.

And that was kind of how I found out that I actually had this gift. I could share, people would find out that I could do something and, you know, graphic related or drawing related or illustration related, and they would say, Hey, Matt, I, can you help us with this brochure? Or can you help us with this logo?

Now, these might not be people who had a big budget, but they did have a real problem, and they had a problem, and they came to me to help solve that problem because they knew that I had skills that they didn’t have. And guys, this is where the magic really happened. People have to understand that you have the ability to solve a problem.

Now, when I say at the beginning of the client snowball process is get a sale, I’m going to say that as you’re just getting started, that sale doesn’t necessarily mean for money, okay? And I’ll explain why that is in just a minute. What you really want is you want to find a person to partner with whose problem you can solve really, really well. That’s where you’re going to start for you, that is going to be your sale to find this person that you can do some work for, even if it’s free or for reduced cost, okay? And I’ll show you why it’s gonna work in just a second. So we’re going to get this sale, we’re going to get this relationship started with this customer who has a problem that we can solve.

All right? We’re going to start working with them. And the next thing in the process that we are going to do is we are going to, we are going to serve this client, and we are going to help them get results. Okay? So here’s the step two, all right? We start with the sale, all right? And then we move into serving.

We’re going to actually use our gifts, talents to do the work of solving their problem. And we’re gonna, and we’re gonna, we’re gonna dive into it, guys. We’re gonna, we’re gonna do what it takes to solve the problem for our client. We want that problem to be obliterated. We want them to get the results as a business owner that they’re looking for.

That’s hugely important. It’s important that we focus on the client problem and make sure that what we do for them solves the problem that they have. And I’ll tell you why that’s so important. Because guys, when they have, when they have a problem, they’re concerned less about the real, the artistic side of what we’re doing for them. Yes, that’s really important.

But at the end of the day, they need a solution that works. If they’re trying to find more clients and they work with us, and we help them get more clients mission accomplished, we have helped to solve the problem. Now, what happens when your client gets the results that they’re looking for? They’re happy When you help a client get the results they’re looking for, guys, they’re really happy. You just helped them do something that they couldn’t do themselves. And at this point in time, they’re incredibly grateful. Okay? So in the client snowball framework, the next step that we’re gonna do, as soon as we help them get results, then we are going to help them tell a story. We want to collect a story from our client.

And this story goes something like this. You guys are probably familiar with what a testimonial is, and testimonials are great because those are really other people sharing who we are. Here’s the difference. This is why I want to share why a story is different than a testimonial. A testimonial is about us, and I talked earlier that as, as some of us are a little bit reticent to share and put ourselves out there, because we don’t like that exposure, we don’t like that talk that’s pointing back to us. The self-promotion, okay? It feels salesy, it feels slimy. We, we feel uncomfortable when other people are talking about us. Okay? That can be a testimonial, and testimonials are something that we’re really familiar with. But I wanna change the way we frame this, and I want us to collect the story from our clients in such a way that the story is all about the results that we get for our client. So in other words, client could say, I really liked working with Mat. Mat is great. I recommend working with Mat. That’s a testimonial. A story is, because I worked with Matt, I was able to do this, fill in the blank. The problem we solved in my business, because I worked with Mat, I was able to get some things done that I couldn’t do on my own. Now see, there’s a big difference in the way we frame that. One is a testimony about me. The other is a story about my client and the things I was able to help my client achieve.

Now, why is that important? Well, for, for one, we want to be able to share these stories, and that is number stage number four. We want to share the story that we collect from our client. Now, a, answering this question, is it easier to brag on yourself or is it easier to brag on your clients? Guys, one of the things that opened the door for me was when I understood how this works, I can talk about the work that I’ve done for my clients and the results that they have received all day long, because I’m not talking about myself. I’m talking about the the results that I was able to help my client achieve. And one of the things that I love to do is I love to brag on my clients.

So when I get a story from them, I’m gonna share it. I’m gonna share it in my emails, I’m gonna share it in conversations that I have with prospects. I’m gonna share it in my social, I’m gonna share it on my website. I’m gonna tell that story wherever I can because that story has incredible power. And here’s where the power comes in, my friend. When you tell a story about what you have done for a client and the results that you have received for them, any other business owner that sees that story is going to, is going to connect. And they are going to say to themselves, okay, I have a similar problem. I have a similar need in my business. And it looks like Matt was able to help this business owner get the result they needed.

So if I’m looking for a resource, if I’m looking for a designer who can help me do this in my business, looks like this business owner had pretty good experience with Matt. In fact, they got great results. So I’m gonna give Matt a look. Guys, let’s look at it this way. When you go to Amazon or to any other online shopping site to go make a purchase, and you’re looking at a product for the first time, and you’ve never had any experience with it before, and you don’t know if it’s gonna work, like they say, what do you do? You go to the review section, you look and see what other people have said about that product. You read their te their, their messages, their stories, their testimonials about what their experience is with that product. Some of ’em are gonna be great. Some of the people are gonna leave great reviews about how that product worked for them. There may even be a few bad reviews in there. But when I go to shop on a site like Amazon, I read the reviews. I wanna see what people who have already bought the product say about it.

Does it really work like it’s supposed to? Is it really worth the money? And based on the culmination of the stories that I read, I am then getting more courage and more trust to make an investment, to give Amazon some money to get that product. When clients see the stories of the work that you’ve done to get results for your clients, you’re building that trust.

You’re giving others a chance to see what it’s like to work with you. Not just are you a nice person, but what kind of results can you help them achieve? So when you do that, when you share those stories, those lead to more sales. So we start with the sale, and then we serve our client. We help them get results.

We solve their pain point, okay? It goes away. They’re happy. We want to tell their story. We talk about that story. We talk about what we did and how we got results for our client. It’s not about us. It’s about the clients that we served. And then we get that story. We’re gonna share that story. We’re gonna put it on our website.

We’re going to put it in our social, our LinkedIn page, our Facebook page. We’re gonna put it in our footer. We’re gonna put it in a lot of different places where people can see what others have said about the work that we’ve done for them. Then people who have a similar pain point, have a similar problem, are going to see the results that we’ve gotten for them, and they’re gonna say, okay, if Matt can get that kind of result for them, maybe he can get that result for me. And they’re gonna reach out and they’re gonna give them a re a, an opportunity to connect with you and to get more information. And guys, that is the client snowball. It works in a circle. And if you do, if you’re diligent to collect the story, get the results, collect the story, share the story, then you’re gonna see more clients come into your business. And the great takeaway here is that as you start to collect these stories, and I tell everyone in my Ignite membership, guys, you need to be story collectors. You need to be collecting stories.

And you know what? You can get a great story from a pro bono client. You don’t need to. They don’t need to share in the story how much they paid you or didn’t pay you. All they need to share is the results that you got for them and how you were able to make their business problem go away. That’s how you can take a pro bono client and make them an active part of your marketing because you can then tell their story and share that story with others.

Would you like to learn how to find perfect clients? Even if you’re just getting started as a freelancer? Then I want to invite you to download a copy of my client Snowball framework. Get your copy [email protected]. Do you want to get started as a freelancer, but not quite sure where to begin? Then be sure to check out the Freelance Blueprint, a free resource that I created just for you.

Inside the Freelance Blueprint, I share a detailed roadmap that you can follow to help you build a stable and profitable Freelance business. Grab your copy of the Freelance Blueprint right now. Just go to Freelance ceo.com/blueprint. Hey, just a second. Before you go, I wanted to say thank you for tuning in. I hope you found something here that’s valuable to you and your business.

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